Wednesday, September 01, 2010

Life Links 9/1/10

Police in New Mexico have arrested the father of a girl going for abortion after he allegedly threatened to kill abortion protesters if they talked to his daughter.
A protester standing just outside the clinic said the man lost it and said he was going to put a bullet through her heart....

Police did find a magazine clip full of bullets on him, but no gun. The man did have several guns locked inside his car.

Police confiscated them, citing the volatility of the situation.


Bryan Kemper responds to the canard that Planned Parenthood has prevented more abortions than they've performed.
Are you kidding me? Prevented more abortions then they have preformed? That is like saying a rapist prevented more rapes then he committed; it does not change the fact that he is still a rapist and even just one rape is too many. The same should be said about killing a baby (abortion): killing just one is too many.


Authorities in New Jersey have arrested an ex-con after he allegedly raped his girlfriend after she said she wouldn't get an abortion.
When the woman who gave birth to two children with Thomas O. Hill said that she had another on the way, police in Burlington County say, the ex-con insisted on an abortion.

But the woman wanted to keep the pregnancy, police said, and an argument over the issue inside her home on Union Landing Road, in Cinnaminson, turned violent Sunday.

"He got pissed off at her," said Cinnaminson Police Det. Sgt William Covert.

Hill, 24, of Camden, is accused of sexually assaulting the woman in a bedroom where three children, including two of his own, were sleeping, Covert said.


I've heard some bad pro-choice arguments before but this assertion by Maya at the Abortion Gang is just beyond ridiculous:
It is an objective truth that is stubbornly ignored by the anti-choice movement that abortion rates are the same whether abortion is legal or not.
Other "objective facts" Maya could possibly assert:

1. All abortionists are really nice people who love and respect women.
2. Abortion is the removal of a blob of cells
3. Stopping tax dollars from paying for abortions does nothing to the abortion rate
4. All anti-choicers are big meanies

3 comments:

  1. 1. All abortionists are really nice people who love and respect women - well, more than the anti-choicers do anyway.

    2. Abortion is the removal of a blob of cells - who cares what you call it, it's a choice and a right.

    3. Stopping tax dollars from paying for abortions does nothing to the abortion rate - this is correct.

    4. All anti-choicers are big loonies - there, fixed.

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  2. Hi Eric,
    It's a choice and a right to kill innocent human beings?

    If you believe that stopping tax dollars from funding abortions doesn't effect the abortion rate, could you explain why the number of abortions performed in Michigan dropped by 10,000 (from 46,747 to 36,557) the same year (1989) that tax dollars stopped paying for abortions? That same year the number of live births in Michigan rose by nearly 9,000.

    Was it merely a coincidence that this huge blimp in birth rates and abortions happened the same year tax dollars stopped being used to fund abortions?

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  3. Each of Eric's "objective facts" are wrong, impossible for anyone (other than God) to know, and/or simply irrelevant. Point-by-point, let's look at them....

    All abortionists are really nice people who love and respect women - well, more than the anti-choicers do anyway.
    Leaving aside the logical difficulties of claiming that "all" people exhibit a certain characteristic -- if you find just one exception, your point is refuted -- I'll ask the more important question: How does Eric know this "fact"? Does he know the heart of each and every pro-lifer? How would he have such knowledge?

    Answer: He doesn't have such knowledge. No human being has such knowledge. The idea is laughable.

    Furthermore, I would present the numerous pro-life volunteers at pregnancy resource centers as Exhibit A to refute the claim. Neither Eric nor I know their hearts, but their kind & loving actions certainly suggest that these folks love and respect women.

    Abortion is the removal of a blob of cells - who cares what you call it, it's a choice and a right.

    Irrelevant. For too many years, owning a slave was also "a choice and a right" in the United States of America. Pro-lifers recognize that our current laws do indeed provide "a choice and a right" for abortion. We also believe that those laws are utterly wrong, just as the pro-slavery laws were wrong in their time.

    Stopping tax dollars from paying for abortions does nothing to the abortion rate - this is correct.

    JivinJ provided an interesting piece of evidence to refute your claim, and I'm curious to see how you respond to him.

    More to the point, this claim just seems illogical to me. If I have to pay for a service, I'll put some more thought into how much I really need that service. On the other hand, if someone else is paying for the service, then I'll be much more likely to just take the freebie. Financial cost slows down most people's decisions. If nothing else, they have to make sure that they can afford whatever-it-is that they want.

    Needless to say, my point is severely diminished (or just plain irrelevant) for the super-rich. If Paris Hilton becomes pregnant, then finances will not be any sort of barrier to whatever decision she might make....

    On the other hand, my point is intensified for the poor. Some people simply won't be able to afford an abortion without some other source of funding. If the government is willing to pay for their abortions, then these folks will get abortions at the government's expense. Otherwise, they'll be dependent on some other source of funding ... or they won't have abortions.

    All anti-choicers are big loonies - there, fixed.

    Mere insults are irrelevant. I could call Eric a "loonie" if I wanted to do so, but it wouldn't do a thing to prove any of my points....

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